MESSAGES SENT IN BY YOU
5 NOVEMBER 2001
Why are people so unkind?
I just read the hate mail you've been sent.
It really brought a tear to my eye.
I suggest you provide some kind of a link on the
site to something which will help explain the mentality exhibited
by the people who've volunteered to become subjects in this very
interesting sociological experiment. I dunno, something along
the lines of (Wilhelm) Reich's 'The Mass Psychology of Fascism'?
Or maybe something by (Erich) Fromm?
I'd suggest one myself but I don't know of any.
Keep up the good work!
PS. Sorry, what I meant to say was:
YOU SAY YOUR COMMIES HA WHAT ABOUT KOREA PEOPLE
FLEA HOW CAN YOU HIPPOCRATES DRINK COMPUTERS AND USE COFFEE WHEN
BILL GATES INVENTED COFFEE AND COMPUTERS ARE MADE FROM PLASTIC
AND GO 'BEEP!' SO DONT TELL ME YOUR PEACEFUL YOU HATE HORSES PITY
YOUR VEGETARIAN AND I HOPE THE COPS GET YOU BEFORE THEY GET ME
BOMBS ARE FUNNY ARE THEY JUST WAIT BOOM HA HA HA NOW WHOSE LAUGHING
DONT TELL ME YOUR COINCIDENTAL IM NOT HMMM YUM BURGERS AND COKE
HA HA GET A JOBCUT AND SOME HAIR...
Etc., etc., etc..
FROM: @ndy, firstname.lastname@example.org
8 NOVEMBER 2001
Your site sucks. How can you justify the terroists
you greeny losers.
FROM: Patrick Pantalone, email@example.com
22 OCTOBER 2001 - Jamie Morien part 1
S11 - Piss weak
I just wanted to let you guys know what a really
bad job your doing.
Your communistic anarchistic ideology is about
as self-contradictory as all your Nike wearing protesters etc.
You have no sensible policy, no realistic plan
and no apparent intelligence whatsoever.
You could simply move to one of the wonderful
havens of equality around the world like Cuba, North Korea or
China, instead you attempt to usurp the bastions of freedom and
choice around the world.
Everything I see come out of your organisation
is hypocritical, contradictory and shallow.
Why not just become soccer hooligans or are you
afraid of the other teams supporters?
Regards, Jamie Morien firstname.lastname@example.org
22 OCTOBER 2001 - Jamie Morien part 2
I just wrote you guys an email to raise a few
issues about your organisation.
In response you sent me an automatic response
linking me to your "hate mail" page.
It does not at all surprise me that you would
consider my email "hate mail".
Freedom of thought and freedom of speech are the
first casualties when dealing with people like you. Your definition
of "hate mail" is arbitrary and one-sided.
As a minority group you feel free to label anyone
that does not agree with your peculiar actions and agenda a "hate
I think that you are making a big mistake publishing
the "hate mail" on your website, because many balanced people
probably read the words of others and find that your organisation
If we can venture into fantasy land for a moment
where S11 has political power then I am sure you would brand all
correspondence that does not agree with your propaganda as "hate
That smacks of totalitarianism which should be
expected from insolent school children such as yourselves.
Why don't you speak to people who have escaped
from socialistic regimes to get a proper perspective.
Read the following quote from Bertrand Russell
"If a man is offered a fact which goes against
his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence
is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other
hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting
in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the
slightest evidence." -- Bertrand Russell, in "Roads to Freedom"
You people hear whatever you want to hear and
believe whatever you want to believe.
If you were for real you would educate the population
instead of incite violence in our streets.
As long as you wear Nike sneakers to Nike sweat-shop
protests and live of the dole given to you from a government that
you despise you will always be seen as hypocrites.
You ruin the landscape with your propaganda and
you cost the average decent hard-working tax-payer in Australia
money every time you run rampage in the streets.
No one takes you seriously...how could they?
So please post this email on your website along
with the other one, or censor it with your communistic policy.
The tide of opinion is against you.
Not because you are fighting the establishment
but because the public has little patience for stupidity.
Sincerely, Jamie Morien email@example.com
24 OCTOBER 2001 - Jamie Morien part 3
Well well. I must say that I am impressed by your
consistency. By publishing my second email as well shows some
kind of honesty. Alas I must be careful not to compliment you
too thoroughly in case this message is not relegated to your "hate
mail" page as well.
The purpose of this email is to draw your attention
to the stir our little uni-directional dialogue has made. It seems
that "Bob the Community Builder" has identified your 'deliberate
irrationalism' and posted his concerns on an independent news
site under the heading "Are the folk behind www.s11.org a nasty
bunch?" The link is as follows: http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=18276&group=webcast
Now that I have been exposed to certain publicity
I must clear up a few seeming "irrationalisms" of my own. I have
labelled you both "totalitarian", and having a contradictory "communistic
anarchistic ideology". I must say that for me these labels were
intended to illustrate the confusion many people have when trying
to pin-point your true ideology. What I have discovered is that
you are truly "deliberate irrationalists". This type of ideology
results from the purposeful fabrication of social myths to incite
rebellion against albeit imaginary foes. Carl Cohen in his "Communism,
Facism and Democracy" identifies this kind of ideology as Fascist.
So now I retract my previous statements as they are certainly
slurs on Communists and instead I identify you as "Fascist Deliberate
What lacks though is a deep-rooted patriotic sentiment.
S11 hates everyone including nations. So this is not such an easy
task. Pure Facism realises that social utopia can only be achieved
through the cruelty, deception and hard-line of a dictator. And
it requires the support of a nation that does not think.
Hitler himself said "What luck for the leaders
that the people do not think". Well I guess you have that going
for you - a following of people who do not think. Get yourselves
a charismatic leader and your set. Maybe your leader could wear
some kind of costume we he throws a few more pies at politicians.
Then your sure to get some kind of patriotism. At present S11
lacks such formal organisational structure and instead it is a
free-for-all that is played out on the city streets by brainless
Will you publish this email too, or is the water
getting a little hot? Anyway I'm resorting back to my original
claim that your simply...Piss Weak.
FROM: Jamie Morien firstname.lastname@example.org
20 OCTOBER 2001
do you people really believe what you are putting
out is the truth????
i had a real laugh at your site, beats the conspiracy
sites for laughs ......keep up the good work
27 SEPTEMBER 2001
What a bunch of cowardly, ill informed hypocrites
you are. Among other things, you object to Bill Gates?
You're using his technology! There's a reason
he's so wealthy - you're LOOKING AT IT.
Where is your competition software/freeware? Do
YOU work for nothing? Do you work at all? General Motors? Shell?
General Electric? Ford?
Their crimes were committed over 40 YEARS AGO.
What kind of car do you drive? Does it run on air? Stop living
in the past.
NIKE? At an s11 protest I witnessed several months
ago, outside a sportswear store, protesting NIKE - the guy with
the megaphone doing all the screaming was WEARING NIKE SHOES!!
Do you think that people don't notice these things?
Give us a break! What you're doing is causing visial and noise
pollution, which is just as bad as air or water pollution!
Hypocrites! I am just glad that CHOGM has been
postponed so I don't have to listen to your ranting next week.
Maybe I'll be able to actually use our city streets.
Have the courage of your convictions and put your
faces, and your names on your website!
Better still - take your website down. After all,
the internet is the best example of globalisation there is!
From, Spacegirl email@example.com
27 SEPTEMBER 2001
At this moment I am pissing myself laughing at
the "pie thrower" (along with Steve Bracks I'll bet)
Our good friend the "pie thrower" is probably
getting rammed up the arse by a couple of big bikies in his prison
cell at this moment - suck shit you wanker !!!
Good to see that our justice system works.
From, Mark Smith, firstname.lastname@example.org
24 SEPTEMBER 2001
When are you going to protest against the unjust
imprisonment of the Aid workers in Afghanistan and the recent
Could you kindly please go to their embassy or
better still go to Afganistan and protest about the WTC bombings,
the terrorist training camps, and the imprisoned Aid workers?
I'm sure the Taliban will welcome you warmly and
listen to you with all due respect. :)
From Yau-ming Chiam, email@example.com
19 SEPTEMBER 2001
Fuck you, fuck your movement and stick the bullshit
you preach up your analy retentive butts. You Suck!!! Make a difference,
help support the relief efforts in the U.S. http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp
From, James D.L. Royce
19 SEPTEMBER 2001
You people are playing with fire !! WE know that
all of you are only a bunch of dole bludgers with nothing better
to do, but there are people that will think S11 ? mmm - September
11 terrorists. But it does make me wonder, you nutty fucks enlist
anyone. Anyway I HOPE THAT THE BRISBANE POLICE BASH THE ABSOLUTE
FUCK OUT OF YOU IDIOTS IN OCTOBER.
From, barry smith firstname.lastname@example.org
17 SEPTEMBER 2001
To s11 Dont you think there are some intelligent
people out there who can put the pieces together?
September 11?..... I feel suspicious of your organisation
particularly who are the people that run your group?
I feel that somewhere in your ranks are the people
with the capacity for what happend on September 11 huh?
Have i got cause to trust my intuition, that is
you people are the ones wanting war?
Terrorism is not the answer !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Idiots like bush and those "running" this world
are sure to fall on their own evil swods without eny need for
terrorism..... put your faith in Love!!! peace
From, Alan Coyle email@example.com
17 SEPTEMBER 2001
You mob of sick FUCKS! Why don't you open your
eyes to what has happened in New York and shut your stupid fucking
site down, or are all you arseholes so disrespectful of human
life that you would celebrate this
From, Darren Clarke firstname.lastname@example.org
15 SEPTEMBER 2001
Yes I protest with everything that you do.
Why don't you get a life.
From, Grahame Tiplady email@example.com
15 SEPTEMBER 2001
If I see any of you s11 barsteds....
Ill stop to kick ure teeth out and then bury you
and my friends will help.
you bunch of hippy barsetds!
FUCK YOU ALL YOU STUIPED CUNTS!
From, Josh Smith firstname.lastname@example.org
11 SEPTEMBER 2001
There is currently a conspiracy theory that yourself
and your web site s11.org is somehow connected to the tragedy
I noticed you've made substantial modifications
to your web site and WhoIs registration address.
I believe you should forward all relevent information
to the authorities and reveal whatever it is you know.
I am sure that there is no connection between
your WTO protest and this mass murder, but your assistance will
help eliminate questions.
FROM: Matt Craig, email@example.com
11 SEPTEMBER 2001
s11 and terrorist attacks
i know s11 was involved in the terrorist attack
in newyork why else would it happen in september and at the wtc
ill watch your back if i was you or your group may find itself
From, Brendan firstname.lastname@example.org
11 SEPTEMBER 2001
You lot can burn in hell.
From, Nick Hey: email@example.com
11 SEPTEMBER 2001
You people are pitiful! (You'd probably say 'pathetic').
So you intend to disrupt the quiet commerce of a beautiful city.
We have witnessed today what happens when people become too ideologically
driven. Nothing is sacrosanct. Everything becomes subordinate
to your twisted zealotry.
You are no different from the people who perpetrated
this monstrous act except in dimensions of scale. You are coming
to Brisbane to foment trouble in the streets.
You intend to promote, if not provoke, dissent
and disruption. You will claim that you are peaceful and that
it is the authorities which initiate the violence. Get a life!
No-one except your own coterie of like-minded stirrers believes
that. I mean, why should people listen to a bunch of unemployed
(otherwise you'd be at work on the days) morons who cannot spell
"independent" correctly...and can't even manage "Murdoch" which
adorns your first page! "Murdock"?
Give me a break! Go back to school. It is obvious
that that is where people of your maturity should be.
From, Anthony Youell firstname.lastname@example.org
29 AUGUST 2001
hey u want to come to macca's wif me and go buy
sum nike stuff in my holden commodore!!!! p.s. we can go have
some pepsi too in the vatican hey u got windows XP yet, i do,
its really good. from a person who wants info on globlisation
(a student from mhs)
9 AUGUST 2001
I'd like to ask a favour. Can you please use
the same glue as industry standard when attaching s11 posters.
In sydney, I was lulled into a false sense of security because
the posters were so easy to remove. In places such as wollongong
however a paint scraper is required. In future I would like to
know what tools I will need in advance so I dont need to carry
FROM: John Lackenby email@example.com
4 AUGUST 2001
You should probably check your source for the
Bill Gates fact.
The average American worker makes US$30k a year
- and your figure states that the poorest 104 million americans
have an average worth of around 500$.
It might take you a while to make the connection
so I'll tell you now - it's highly unlikely.
And also, I am very off put by your refusal to
surrender even a shred of moral substance to the 'other side'.
Your whole attitude is about one sided negativity
and it is hard to differentiate from any other hate group in its
stupidity and bitterness.
The one big difference is that other hate groups
are far less vain and self admiring.
28 JULY 2001
Suck shit to the dirty cunt who was shot.
I hope the Victorian Police get their shit together
and shoot some of you dirty red faggots....
You are filthy red pieces of shit.
Fuck off to North Korea if you want to fuck Stalin
up the arse so much.
Heres hoping the cops belt the absolute fuck out
of you CUNTS.
FROM: Herb Reathstinks firstname.lastname@example.org
27 JULY 2001:
you must realise that the vast majority out there
have absolutely no idea why you are protesting and are saddened
by your pitiful protests which only serve to cloud the pursuit
otherwise worthwhile issues such as environmental protection.
Extreme elements within your organisation are
using your protests to act out like preschoolers and behave violently,
FROM: Brett Grose" email@example.com
15 JULY 2001
Do you people have a 'vision'?
An ideal in which your organisation strives to
achieve for the world through its actions? Please could you explain
how shutting down Nike will result in its overseas workers being
better off with no income at all... how will their quality of
life improve without employment through these multinationalist
Is not the reason these large companies have factories
overseas in third world countries to ensure the people have some
source of income versus nothing at all and a state of desolate
Is it really the people you are concerned about,
or the large companies you just want to have a go at for their
These are educated people we're talking about.
Where would Australia's economy be without international
trading? I'm sure we'd be a third world country too.
The world is dependant on international trading
sources in order to stimulate economical growth so that all people
can benefit from a better quality of life... unfortunately, these
people in 3rd world companies are losing out... but they were
3rd world countries long before the multinationalists came on
And I'm sure they're not being treated as badly
as you think they are, having never been abroad yourself.
On what sources are you reliant?
Where did you get the information on how badly
these people are being treated?
How will the world become a better place without
these large international companies?
Thanks again, Krista
11 JULY 2001
I visited your site in order to gain some information
a) your causes for protesting
b) what you have actually achieved in the long
c) the opinions of the general public regarding
your 'humanitarian' endevours to cause trouble and 'educate' them
about the issues you are ill-informed about...
your group is mainly consisted of dole bludgers
and secondary school kids who appeal to your causes in that they
involve rebellious courses of action and the oppitunity to appear
on the news in some sort of brawl with the police
(who could be dealing with more important felonies
had you not been wasting their time, and then you go and hypocritically
file complaints about them being violent when you were the provocators)
only to front up at school on monday with tales
of 'guess what I got into a fight with the police on friday'...
And what exactly do you achieve by having these
periodical protest rallies every friday?
I'm sure by now everyone knows who you are, so
that rules out the need to raise awareness of your organisation.
Banners, advertising... this all costs money,
money that could be better donated to charities and sent to the
people of these 3rd world countries you seem so intent on standing
up for their rights!
Is it really these people you are concerned about,
or are you just using them as an excuse to rebel against multinational,
affluent organisations of which you will never match in success
or finance stakes?
They're big and overwhelming- they make you as
such a small organisation, living off whatever petty cash you
get your hands on - be it government funding or whatever, feel
And so 'the little people must be heard...'
If you feel the need to fight for some sort of
cause, I can hardly understand why you would not look in your
Try Broadmeadows... why overseas?
I bet none of you have actually been to these
factories overseas, to see first-hand what exactly goes on.
Where did you get the reports of working conditions
Your organisation is a joke.
You don't feel any real empathy for these people.
You just want to cause a scene and get people
to sit up and take notice of you for your rebellious political
And as for your hate mail section... every one
of those letters, bar 2 of which were all of about 3 lines each,
mispelled, and gramatically pitiful, left you speechless - because
they spoke the truth.
You were only able to retalliate to 2 of those
letters - clearly an example of verbal defeat on your part.
Why couldn't you make some sort of response to
conteract their arguments?
Because you DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY....
from: Krista Raft (firstname.lastname@example.org)
30 JULY 2001- from the m1 announce list
I hope everyone on this list attended the funeral
of Roy Longmore, the second last Anzac at St Marks Anglican Church.
If not you are all hypocrites and sad human beings.
I think his great grand daughter said it best:
"Roy Longmore was the very essence of modesty,
humanity, sacrifice, survival and courage.
It is unbelievable to think that Roy has lived
in three different centuries and had to live with 87 years of
graphic memories of those bloody battles of war.
Eighty-seven years of waking up every morning
and continuing life as normal, 87 years of being nothing less
than a hero, 87 years of never once complaining of it."
You see, this man is the reason you are have the
freedom to fight your pathetic causes.
He has done more for Australia, and on an even
larger scale, the world, than any of you will ever do with your
sad little lives. I did not see one announcment on this list giving
details to his funerel.
SHAME ON YOU ALL. THIS MAN
IS A TRUE AUSTRALIAN. A TRUE HERO.
He has faced horrors you and I can only imagine.
You just fight against a shoe company. He
fought against nations.
You deface McDonalds.
You pass out pamphlets with obviously wrong information
and he faced an onslaught of bullets, grenades and near impossible
Does your meaningless position in society clear
YOU SEE HOW INSIGNIFICANT YOU ALL ARE? YOU
FIGHT MORONIC CAUSES AND YOU ARE COMPLETELY SHADOWED BY ONE MAN.
A TRUE PERSON, UNLIKE YOURSELVES.
I am not using the great mans death as an excuse
to rubbish you but just to point out that this man fought in A
WORLD WAR and never once complained about it. He saw friends die.
You provoke violence at every protest and then
complain about how the police were so harsh when you started it
Just pointing out that how shameful your actions
are and how you should not even consider yourselves humans, let
SHAME ON YOU ALL.
from peter: email@example.com
21 JUNE 2001
YOU COMPLETE IDIOTS
After attending a local protest outside the Nike
store in Melbourne a couple of Fridays ago I can safely say that
s-11, M-1 and all the other miniority groups who believe their
pathetic attempts at protest will change anything, are a bunch
of uneducated morons with little else to with their time than
interupt hard working Australians.
You cant seriously tell me blockading one Nike
store for a couple of hours each week will actually do anything
when all people have to do is walk down the street and buy them
in the several other stores that stock Nike shoes, socks, clothing
and misc. merchandise.
What sad jokes you all are.
The thing is that you all think that you can change
the world.You cant and you never will.
You blockade the Crown Casino for a couple of
days and the people attending have to arrive by boat or by air,
with little to no disruption what so ever and you claim victory.
Well, wasnt it a hollow victory?
The main thing you did was not allow a group of
school children to attend a meeting with Bill Gates that could
help their future.
Great, so you depreived children the chance to
have an option.
Well done! You all must be proud!
You stop the stock market for a day? so what??!?
Your voice is not being heard except by those
who alread follow your cause.
The rest of the world see you as unemployed lay
abouts who just like causing trouble. Am I just rehashing a sterotype?
Well when the majority of you is a sad sterotype
then the answer is naturally, no. And 99% of you are completly
illinformed about working conditions over seas. You quote how
little people get paid.
Well it is either get paid the way they do which
is often 3 or 4 times the amount they would get from a company
homed in their own country, or, become prostitutes.
So the question is work for money or become a
If you had to feed a family when you're 10 years
old would you work for money or become prostitutes?
But then again I guess you would have to understand
what it would be like to go with out.
The Western world has little idea about working
conditions and the way people conduct their lives over seas.
You are just following along like sheep. I feel
sorry for you.
Did you realise that the organiser of the S-11
at Crown was wearing Nike shoes and talking to the press on a
Two companies s-11 was protesting against? Or
do you just over look those little facts because they don't suit
Im sure some of you believe you are making a
difference. You're not!
And when you all grow up you will realise how
little you voice actually is.
And next time you are at a protest and mock police,
spit on them, taunt them, throw fish hooks at them dont go crying
like little children when they retaliate.
You provoked it!
from peter: firstname.lastname@example.org
- this email below is a reply
to peters (above) previous emails
Bob Holderness-Roddam replies
to Pauls email
You make a number of ill-informed
statements relating to protestors working to prevent corporate
dominance of Planet Earth.
Lets have a look at the facts.
Protestors are not uneducated
Indeed, most are involved because
their studies have shown them just how serious the situation is
regarding the environment and social disruption caused by corporate
You say protestors can't change
What bullshit! Protestors were
responsible for the eventual success of anti-slavery, anti-transportation,
women's franchise, anti Vietnam war, gay rights, Franklin Dam,
anti Apartheid in South Africa, etc., etc.
Deprived children of meeting with
Bill Gates. Big deal!
Do you really think a meeting
with the man who has a personal fortune greater than many of the
world's poorest economies is going to make this planet a better
place to live.
Get real! Stopping the stock market
for a day would have made a number of people at least start to
Investors are turning to socially
responsible and ethical investments. This move has certainly been
encouraged by protests such as M1 and that against Nike.
The reason that people in third
world countries are so underpaid is that they had their productive
lands stolen by colonial powers and multinational corporations
for forestry and monoculture crops such as coffee.
These people are now forced to
produce consumer crops, which are sold at inflated prices in so-called
'civilised' countries, for a pittance.
I hope you scald yourself on your
next cup of coffee - someone probably works for slave wages for
Only a very small minority of
protestors use violence against Police. Unfortunately the media
always blow up the violence, because it makes good TV = good ratings
= more advertising revenue.
In the majority of cases the Police
initiate violence. Having said that, if violence is the only way
to save the world from the greedy for the needy, then let there
FROM: Bob Holderness-Roddam :
NOTE: Peter (2 letters above)
has received many replies from readers (like the one just above)
and now here below is his heated and abusive responce.
Well it seems I have ruffled more than a few feathers.
I have been called everything from an o.k guy
to a complete fuck wit to a typical Capitalist parasite.
Let me first say that many of you said I was obviously
an unemployed layabout (isn't that the pot calling the kettle
black?) I own my own successful IT/Games Design business.
Many of you said I was uneducated.
I obtained my education at Penligh and Essendon
Grammar School and worked hard through several IT courses.
And no my family are not rich. My mother worked
two jobs to put me through my initial education and I put myself
through my courses.
I have worked my business up from my bungalow
at the back of my parents to a highly successful company located
in the Melbourne CBD.
I wont tell you its name because Im sure one of
the well educated intelligent among you will try and destroy the
property with grafitti.
I wouldnt habe to close my doors and board up
my windows because of the educated people protesting.
I created this business with my own blood, sweat
and definately tears.
I feed my family with the money I make.
I make! Unlike the majority of you who leach off
the system! How many of you actually collect a dole check with
no intention of finding a job?
The majority no doubt! I thank my lucky stars
everyday that I am in a country that allows me to do so. I have
also been fortunate enough to travel extensively through out the
world and to the third world countries.
I always look at all sides of the coin...and for
those who commented, I do not read the Herald Sun (except for
the Garfield comic) or watch Channel 9 News.
And I am definately not Andrew Bolt!! I told
you this information above because this is a western view of "success".
People are unable to detach themselves from western
values of success and other countries.
The fact is working in a Nike (or these kinds
of factories in general) factory for people overseas is the equivalant
of the wage I give myself.
This feeds their family. One argument in a response
said that people could not become financial because western companies
would not allow them.
This is missing the point.
Many of these people come from backgrounds where
money is no importance to them except where it is needed to pay
They have no need for big houses and a bank balance.
Their culture has survived for thousands of years
without it, why is money so important now?
Because a Western community says so.
This is pure arrogance and misunderstanding of
the foreign culture that western people are guilty of time and
The garbage you spew forth is just that.
A complete misunderstanding of the basic facts!
I have literally seen hundreds of factories and
not once have I seen, as one response implied, people having to
urinate in bags under the table because they are not allowed toilet
Where did you get this information?
I have read thousands of pages of reports on these
factories and not once has it said anything remotely about situations
Maybe Im getting the reports that are covering
up the truth.
That must be it. I must be blind. I havent been
there and seen the actual factories time and time again.
They are factories that suit their needs and standards.
With out these factories nearly all the families
would be homeless, their children prostitues and for those who
are homeless 80% of them have one parent dead.
I have gone on many (9 infact) trips to 3rd world
countries to help with famine or hunger relief, my company has
even donated large sums of money towards the cause, so no, I am
not a selfish prick manipulating people and feeding off misery
I didn't go looking for the factories but they
were there, and often they were the only things holding up a community.
Naturally there are bad factories, even disgusting
factories, but these are in the vaste minority. But, some how
seem to be the ones getting all the publicity. I wonder why? Look
in your own backyard.
There are thousands and thousands of people working
around Australia in slave labour! WHAT?! NOT HERE?!
You think every refugee is caught?
You think there arent thousands of people being
slaved away by people as whores on the street corners of your
very town? But why fix them?
They have the oppurtunity right? WRONG! Just because
we are in a free country doesnt make everyone free.
-------- Nike approached the protestors at Melbourne
to talk, but the protestors refused to talk saying that the reprosentatives
from Nike had to come to the protest line and inform everyone.
This simply does not work and if you think it
will, especially when dealing with business professionals, you
are wasting your time.
This also does not give Nike a bad name as some
of you said.
Nike spend millions of dollars on advertisement
to convince the world they are the best in shoes etc.
Protesting out side one store will not do a difference
and this will cause no snow ball effect.
Has there been other protests in other cities
outside Nike? No. ---------
I, ofcourse, believe in freedom of speech but
not the way you are doing it. It is the wrong way.
You do not use violence too show your cause.
If the Crown protest had been peaceful the awesome
effect of thousands upon thousands of people blockading the streets
would have been sensational, except it resorted to violence.
Violence protestors started! Pure and simple.
I was in the middle of it for the three days.
I have read many times in this list about (I forget
the term given to them) people dressed in protective gear so they
can man the front line of protest and push forward.
What else would a police officer do if a row of
people dressed in protective gear came their way? Exactly the
same thing you would do.
If someone is not allowed somewhere, they dont
go, what ever it takes.
Just thank yourselves your in a country where
you can start a fight and claim the police hit you too hard and
then claim compensation.
Crying like children again!! Ofcourse if you got
assaulted the first thing you would do would be to call the police.
----------- The simple fact is that you are percieved
A bunch of unemployed lay abouts with nothing
better to do than cause trouble for hard working Australians and
make excuses that you won't bow down to the pressures of "the
man" instead of supporting yourselves with a job, all the while
leaching off the government most of you protest against.
I know some of you are business owners and professionals
but that means little.
Am I wrong in sterotyping you like that? No. Because
that is how the world see you. A disruption.
Yes I know you have to make a disruption to make
a difference and the million other cliched lines you can spew
But what have you done? Educated the world? No.
Have you done anything significant. No. Except
annoy a lot of people.
There are probably 5% of you out there who are
actually trying to educate people about your cause, are walking
the talk so to speak and for that I take my hat off to you.
To the other 95% of you who are pretty much a
waste of space ("no it is you who are the waste of space" I can
see the responses now), get ure head out of your own ass and get
meaningful lives, not one that exists purely to make trouble and
fight a cause the majority of your clearly don't understand.
Peter : email@example.com
As an Australian citizen and an ex-service man,
I can honestley say that you people are a pack of idiots, you
make the country look bad in the eyes of the rest of the world,
you really dont know what you are talking about
eg.a person at your demonstration at Nikes melbourne
offices was wearing Nike shoes and a Nike t-shirt .
You claim that your protests are peacefull but
after standing 15 meters from your Nike protest, I witnessed members
of your organization provoke, gode ,physically and verbaly abuse
the police who just happen to be doing thier job .
The question must be asked , How many people in
your organization actually work real jobs?
How many people in your organization are not proffessional
students (REAL BLUDGERS)?
A global economy is not a bad thing , manufacturing
is heading offshore because labour unions are pricing us as potential
employees out of the market , with foriegn investment we may be
able to repair some of the damage that has been done to us as
a nation , we rode the sheeps back for far to long and neglected
If you achieve what you as a group praport to
be after , the only thing you will achieve is turning our country
into a third world country for we cannot survive without foriegn
investment from global companies.
Craig Fernleigh firstname.lastname@example.org
20 MAY 2001
I went on your web site today to try and get a
basic understanding of what you actually think you are achieving
through your protests.
Frankly I don't get you people, you are portraying
yourselves as people who want to help the world, but you spend
heaps of money on banners and advertisements.
You are against global corporate companies, but
a whole series of your protesters where there gear.
Corporate companies aren't that bad, god knows
they give more to charity then you lot.
Corporate sydney is giving a lot of people jobs,
what do you propose will happen to them if it is shut down.
No matter how much you fight corporate bodies,
they do good things amongst the bad and without them our unemployment
rate would sky rocket even further.
You do not seem to even care about the people
who work in these establishments that you are shutting down.
For people who are so concerned about the world,
you lack compassion for your fellow man.
I don't think that you realise that, through your
attempt to get peoples attention all you have become the butt
of many jokes from multiple writers and comedians.
I think you need to seriously consider putting
some thought behind your cause and stop being so hypocritical.
You need to look at the broader picture before
you judge it.
FROM: Nicole Coffee: email@example.com
8 MAY 2001
You have now further reinforced my view that democratic
socialism is all but dead in all its forms.
Just as Timothy McVeigh sits on death row in
the United States of America, so too does radical socialism await
its imminent demise.
The protest in Melbourne was nothing but a group
of ad hoc protesters scapegoating whoever they saw fit. Maybe
all the money spent on fliers, advertising and banners may have
been better spent on actual charities.
Maybe, instead of standing outside causing havoc
on inner city Melbourne, the protesters could have been door-knocking
houses to raise money for worthy causes.
My major gripe with M1 is that it constantly calls
for action and protest, yet never provides solutions to today's
I understand your position and stance on many
However, you consistently fail to do more than
simply bringing attention to your cause. Maybe, you should involve
yourself with negotiations with big businesses to organize certain
charity donations, or that a percentage of their profits are directed
to certain groups.
Constant acerbic complaining will not draw attention
to the issues you want to raise.
For once, why don't you provide the general public
with solutions to today's problems?
Then, and only then, will the people listen.
Furthermore, if you want to gain the respect of
the public, you must be better organized.
The M1 protest in Melbourne did little other than
to show the community that there was a 'catch-all' group of people
protesting against anything and everything (This is not to say
that the variety of causes were not noble).
If you want to protest against the free-market
economy, do so, but make it obvious that this is your major cause
Then, with this in mind, you will be able to provide
solutions - real answers - to today's problems.
Unfortunately S11 and M1 were shambles.
In the future you must be better organized and
contemplate how your actions will be perceived by the general
Remember, your cause will not be supported, if
the people are unsure what it is they are supporting.
FROM: Simon Schenkel Bachelor of Arts - Dean's
Scholar Program Monash University:
2 MAY 2001
To the organisers of, and participants in M1
You are the biggest bunch of hypocritical wankers
I have seen.
For startes you use the internet to get your message
across. I would have thought the internet
Yet you embrace it to further your cause because
it's convenient. How many other conveniences do you make use of?
Yesterday I saw M1 protestors wearing Nike shoes,
and eating McMuffins on their way to another hard day's work on
the dole, I mean being a professional protest participant.
I have a couple of questions to put to M1 sheep.
First of all, how many participants in the protests
are actually employed and pay income tax.
Seeing as the protests were on a work day, I'm
guessing not many.
You know all those people
whose day you disrupted by hindering them going to work - who
do you think pays taxes so you career welfare recipiants can live?
Secondly, do you think that police resources around
the country could have been better used instead of having to babysit
a bunch of wankers making sure they didn't impinge of the civil
liberties of the majority?
While police were having to fulfil their duty
of care to people wanting to carry on like thugs, there were fewer
officers to serve members of the tax paying public.
And don't these people deserve better? After all
they are the ones paying taxes which pay for the police.
Thirdly, I'm sick of listening to the same socialist
left, tree hugging pissing and moaning from some fool who wants
to complain about getting hurt in one of these protests.
Further to that, some of these brain surgeons
and irresponsible enough to bring their children with them.
This in my opinion is nothing short of child
Police don't start the violence at these protests.
It's halfwits who use a pack mentality to have
cheap shots at men and women who get paid not a whole lot of money
to do a job most people don't have the courage to do.
It's not about protesting, it's about getting
revenge on the police for them arresting some shit bag and seizing
I suppose stabbing police officers in the leg
with a syringe is a lawful and productive means of protest?
Police are in the unfortunate situation of having
to be zoo keepers on days like yesterday.
I'm sure there are plenty of other things they
would rather have been doing.
Do you think anyone really cares about hat your
They may if you did it in a more civilised and
mature way. You claim to be educated people.
Why don't you behave like it? I'm all for free
speech, but not when it's done in a way that impinges on the civil
liberties of other people.
We are all entitled to our rights, not just those
who make assholes of themselves in the streets.
Finally. I had a look at your website regarding
protestor rights as far as the police are concerned.
You may want to get a second opinion on some
of the information you've been provided with.
Whoever has provided you with it only thinks they
have an idea about criminal law and police procedure.
It's no wonder your members get arrested.
I would really like to hear a response from organisation.
Dirty Harry: firstname.lastname@example.org
PS. As you may have guessed this is not my real
name. But you're not the police so why should I have to?
2 may 2001
I was ashamed to watch your bunch of losers ,misfits
and usless out and out thugs protestion.
My only regret was that I wasnt a member of the
Why your group protests against multi national
companies has most people confused.
You people dont work , have never worked and live
off the social welfare that is provided by the average Australian.
I say get a life losers, get a life.
Further the illiterate who made up your webs site
address, well what can I say 1/10
m marramarra email@example.com
1 may 2001
After seeing your website and observing the protests
from my Rialto Office, I have a few comments for the M1 Alliance.
First of all, our premier is STEVE Bracks and
not JEFF Bracks, it is either 2nd or 3rd and not "2rd" (which
funnily enough you can pronounce as 'Turd'). Just by looking at
your Website (which basically promotes capitalism in the form
of the IT industry anyway), it clear that the M1 is just a bunch
of kids trying to resurrect the hippy spirit and who really have
no idea of the real world.
Money will always be in our lives in one form
or another, hence capitalism will always be evident in one form
or another - unfortunately it is just the way of the world. Even
in a non-monetary system we would still need some form of tender,
otherwise barbaric acts will prevail and the notion of "Only the
strong shall survive" will be our constitution.
If other countries are run in a barbaric way,
why not try protesting where the source of the problem lies (i.e.
in the Phillippines) instead of here in Australia?
The propoganda you have published and spread has
turned impressionable young kids into "World Haters" when a vast
majority of them are living the very life and wearing the products
that they are protesting.
They are only getting half the picture.
Why not educate them about everything and then
let them make their own decisions. What does a 16 year old know
about the world to go and protest about something so passionately
and perform random acts of violence? Your idealistic views of
the world need to be intelligently brought to the media and maybe
even to the governments in question rather than in the form of
a ridiculous protest that, at the end of the day, will achieve
I understand that support for such a large issue
is hard to obtain from the likes of the government, however a
wild protest is not a good way to gain parliamentary support or
obtain financial support from any influential people.
final point, I'm not an avid football fan, but I am extremely
disgusted that you are slandering Wayne Carey and branding other
football players as gay (Wayne actually just got married), when
they are role-models for many of the younger generation.
of language and that disgusting video was absolutely uncalled
for and in my opinion, gives you "redneck" status. refers
What did you hope to achieve by doing this?
If someone is gay it is firstly none of anyone's
business and secondly, is not even pertonent to your arguments.
You have no right to force-feed rubbish down everybody's
throats just to gain support for what started to be a worthy cause
that turned sour. Thank-you for disrupting my work day and threatening
the safety of my wife, my property and myself.
Yours sincerely, Peter
1 may 2001
you are a bunch of thugs hasn't anyone ever heard
of peaceful protests where would the world be without big business
we would all be living in grass huts the people such as bill gates
are very smart people who have worked hard to get were they are.
globalisation is a good thing watch the southpark
episode about starbucks moving to southpark.
greg ford: firstname.lastname@example.org
M1 REPLIES - 5 may:
M1 was peaceful. what planet are you on?
7 may 2001 - 2rd message from greg ford
not from what I saw on the news it wasn't you
blocked the stock exchanges in basically every capital city in
aust. you interrupted others trying to earn a living peaceful???????
how many drugs were you on at the time, I saw
on the news live, there were people burning things putting paint
all over the place smashing windows etc...... I bet alot of the
protesters are on the dole smoking pot or rent a crowd.
if it wasn't for big business Australia would
be even more worse off financially than it already is. globalization
is a good thing but also bad if the company's go too far e.g.
shell in Africa.
greg ford: email@example.com
1 may 2001
Hi, I have never seen nor read more hypocritical
bullshit than your website supplies.
You are all jokes and are exposing yourselves
Corporate globalisation....um I believe the internet
is a big part of it. Yet you feel it is OK to use because you
How convenient! Never heard of Microsoft? Netscape?
You think S11 is strong......I have a stronger
force coming your way soon...........*bang*....something backfired!!
P N firstname.lastname@example.org
1 may 2001
you retards you are so fucked its not funny, without
big corporations, we would be thrown back into a stoneage. without
big corporations and globalization you would not be able to print
off your nazi propaganda and use the internet to broadcast your
hypochrasy, how many of your supporters wear nike shoes and eat
Mcdonalds? email me back at email@example.com
if you have any regards. I hope you get your arses kicked today
and the coppers kick the shit out of your pathetic excuse for
Rachael Meager <firstname.lastname@example.org>
14 april 2001:
you are all freaks of nature who are unable to understand what
your trying to protest about. even though we all know your not
really interested about what your protesting about because all
you want is anarchy. funny thing is that if we had true anarcht
you weazels would not survive, you only survice because the masses
tolerate you. you are the weakest links, good bye freaks.
Grant Stuart: email@example.com
4 april 2001:
Hey you forget about your fucking protest shit
and other mother fucking rebellious shit going on Well Whats wrong
with NIKE Its good though and features the best athletes in the
world And Thats All I have To Say about that SON OF BITCHES MOTHER
Isaiah Raval: firstname.lastname@example.org
26 march 2001:
u r a bunch of hippy losers, whoi hosts your website?
who makes the os and browsers u use? hypocrites
Clinton Duncan: email@example.com
27 march 2001:
funny how you havent answered my questions...i
challenge you to answer them.
Clinton Duncan: firstname.lastname@example.org
17 march 2001
What the fuck do you hope to achieve by blockading
A store for one day?
Why do I have to ask someone this question? If
the web site was any good at all! these questions would be covered
and the questions answered immediately. A skeptic doesn't want
to see naked people they want to see reasons to signup!
If realistically we want anything to happen the
first move is to stop smoking grass and start combing our hair!
S11 and M1 are touching upon a revolution that was generated buy
people thirty years ago! Ever heard of a hippie?
Why did they fail? because their motivation included
sex and drugs. Once they stopped that they just conformed. FUCK
THAT drugs don't generate clear thinking and motivation. and sex
whilst being fun at the time ultimately ends up increasing the
If we are going to cause an efficient and widespread
change we shouldn't put pictures of people throwing rocks at busses
along side naked people running around with green hair. Firstly
Because clothes are for warmth. Secondly if we continue with the
new age Hippie persona we will alienate people. Furthermore the
die you use to colour hair is a chemical that dose nothing good
for the environment at all.
Simplify your attire and express yourself through
your actions not through aceorrising your body! ie Piercing of
any type, Jewelry and chemicals in your hair. Let me know about
some meetings and we can discuss the issues further.
Andrew Rance: Andrew_Rance@bmc.com
15 march 2001
Will YOU sit back and watch the S11 disrupt the
first of May, as they did last September; delaying public transport,
inciting violence, and attempting to stop workers from accessing
the stock exchange on Collins street?
Will YOU sit there and shake your head without
doing anything to show the majorityıs opinion?
Join NCP on May day to repel any subversive, non-peaceful
action by rogue factions.
Contact via E-mail: NCP2010@another.com
March 13 2001
I Hope you all get run over by police again on
May the 1st.
You are all wankers, and deserve the violence
that you envoke!!
You think your so good, You are nothing!
Your violent ways not only turn ordinary people
away from your cause, but ruin the image of many cities in the
No one cares about you!
So go and do somehting more useful than a violent
Actually do something about the problems which
you say you dont want. A violent protest wont do any of that!!
Go and get a job you dickheads!!
I know I'll be waiting and watching for all of
the police to get back on all you hippies.
Hmmmm Squashed Hippies!! HAVE FUN!!!
From Sharen Potsworthy: email@example.com
Febuary 14 2001
You guy's should really be ashamed of your selves.
I have just seen your group leader on the news,
are you sure he is not a paedophile.
I mean contacting young children and schools,
School is for the 3x r's, let the children decide
when they finally get out into the real world.
Ever heard of the"Hitler Youth" same ideas.
From Virgina O.D.B.S. ODBS@bigpond.com
Hello, part of the reason i have trouble committing
my time to s11=m1 is the fact that you have become an ugly organisation.
Obviously full of un educated extremists who don't
even have a solid set of goals!
You have a link to propaganda on your web
You are promoting visual pollution.
Which in turn motivates losers to spray paint
moronic slogans all around our city.
If you gave a fuck about the environment your
propaganda would be deterring people from doing this because the
chemicals used to clean spray paint is detrimental to the environment!
Also if you are going to put Ghandis word on this
site don't contradict them.........
Exerts from your site "Gandhi promoted a constant
dialogue between opponents with a view to ultimate reconciliation.
Insults, threats, and propaganda only serve to obstruct the goal.
("DA WORLD BANK IS WRONG") Remember were in the
year 2001 in Australia not the USA in the 80's DA is not english.
feel free to ignore this advice, perhaps becuase
of its tone or approach and loose another s11 suporter.
XXOO andrew rance